December 06, 2005
(UPDATE 3: Images/Video) American Hostage RONALD SCHULZ Threatened on Video by Islamic Army in Iraq

UPDATE: 12/08--The Jawa Report has learned that Ronald Shulz has been murdered.
See this post for update.
The Jawa Report has obtained a copy of the original video. Images from it are posted below and to the right. Unlike other hostage videos, the video edits out the terrorist sitting next to American hostage Ronald Schulz. This is very different than any other IAI produced hostage video I have seen. The image right is of Ronald Schuz's passport as seen in video. Schulz can be seen in the video speaking to one of his captors, but his voice cannot be heard.
Scroll to bottom of post for images. The video is rather large. UPDATE: Long-time Jawa collaborater and terror hunter Infovlad now has the video up here. See Dec. 7th post.
A smaller version of the video can be downloaded from Ogrish. UPDATE: The YNC also has the video here. Another update: Noted terror expert Laura Mansfield also with video--Hyscience also hosting video
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Think I'll pass on watching the video. Nothing but the same old shit anyway.
Posted by: greyrooster at December 07, 2005 04:26 AM (OvTKg)
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Fuck you Osama and the pork eating muslim burka wearing whore you live with.
Posted by: osamaeatspork at December 08, 2005 12:47 PM (QZZBJ)
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In addition to Adopt-a-Soldier, could we put together a program whereby we could donate money for the purchase of ammunition? Each round would have a Terrorist Sand Nigger or Dune Coon name etched on the cartridge, sort of like a personal Adopt-a-Dead-Sand-Nigger for the troops? Further, having a program like that for Liberal Assholes in North America would be a well- received plan. Or, where could we drop a few bucks to "help" loose a few nukes over Iraq and Iran? Fuck these camel fucking shiteaters - it's time to get really NASTY and, once and for all, get even. We could do this all on a Sunday night, when every Liberal Piece of Shit is tucked into its Barka Lounger watching "Desparate Cunts".
Posted by: Ralph at December 08, 2005 06:29 PM (paVS/)
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Ralph,
Why don't you take an overdose of chill pills.
,Thank goddess i'm not ralph
Posted by: not ralph at December 08, 2005 09:46 PM (0lp9W)
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Ralph is over the top but think about it. We are over there funding billions of dollars to help those who have lived like animals for the last thirty years as a monument to a dictator who had less compassion for his animals then his people. These people are scarred by the years of war and only understand the rule of law that has been handed to them over the last 1,000 years. Civilation comes in all shapes and sizes and we shouldn't be there then or now. These people have issues that only God can solve. If you want to fund the end to them, stop buying oil and you will send them to hell. The top dogs only exist outside of a tent because they have your oil dollars. I say nuke em but that can't be done as it's not humane. Thus, cut em off at the pockets boys and you will see them starve in the wasteland where they live.
Posted by: Anonymous at December 19, 2005 07:28 PM (Z4L9Q)
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May the higher power comfort and be with the innocent that have been killed - by anyone - anywhere.
Animals these "terrorists" are.(this includes ANYONE who pre-meditates and murders an innocent one in COLD/POISON BLOOD.
Not superior - just ANIMALS - less than animals that is.
And godly or religious? Their god is Satan - or maybe Manson or themselves.
Posted by: Allana at December 21, 2005 12:55 PM (iXWYc)
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Dean-o Wants the Spotlight Again
Howard Dean seems to have two problems these days. First off, he wants the spotlight. You can tell just by watching him for five minutes that he can't stand it when someone else gets attention. But that only compounds his second problem which is the fact that he doesn't have anything original to say. Because of this, Dean has decided to steal the Murtha-ism that
we can't win in Iraq.
In a most unoriginal speech, he goes on to compare Iraq to Vietnam and insinuate that the Iraqi people are too helpless to take care of themselves. He then concludes with the most original "We cannot have our troops being targets there."
Taken along with his antics during the last Presidential primaries and his shenanigans since, this has made me see Dean in a whole new light...
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Just consider for a moment just who other than Howie D would we conservatives like to see in that position in the democrat party? This guy could blow at anytime. His latest statements are just steam escaping. The big blow is going to come.
ItÂ’s almost makes you wonder if he is some Karl Rove operative under deep cover.
Posted by: Brad at December 06, 2005 12:15 PM (3OPZt)
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>>>we can't win in Iraq.
No, we can't, or it would spell the doom of our party for the next 40 years to come.
Posted by: Democrat at December 06, 2005 12:47 PM (8e/V4)
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Next time actually read the story. Dean never said we can't win in Iraq.
What a load of shit.
Posted by: Rob S at December 06, 2005 01:36 PM (agR1e)
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"Next time actually read the story. Dean never said we can't win in Iraq."
Rob S.
"The idea that we are going to win this war is an idea that unfortunately is just plain wrong,"
Howard Dean
Come on guys get it together!
Posted by: Brad at December 06, 2005 01:43 PM (3OPZt)
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"idea that we're going to win the war in Iraq is an idea which is just plain wrong," Democratic National Chairman Howard Dean
Yep Brad I read that too.
Posted by: Howie at December 06, 2005 01:49 PM (D3+20)
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Howie,...I mean good Howie,
I was kind of waiting to see Rob's response. Looks to me like he said we can't win.
Posted by: Brad at December 06, 2005 02:00 PM (3OPZt)
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Uh read that way to me.
Posted by: Howie at December 06, 2005 02:58 PM (D3+20)
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Dean is just your typical show off trying to show off for the media he would make a peacock jelous
Posted by: sandpiper at December 06, 2005 03:01 PM (r8sk+)
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Rob, you there? yoohoo!
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at December 06, 2005 03:08 PM (8e/V4)
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Where is Rob? Oh, Rob! Rob, where are you, man? Robbbbbbbbbb! He ain't answering, Brad. What a sissy!
Posted by: jesusland joe at December 06, 2005 03:21 PM (rUyw4)
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I think Rob was actually commenting on his own post. Notice how he seperated the two lines with a double-space, which indicates to me that there is a part of his mind, somewhere in the left hemishpere, which cannot buy the lie his right hemishpere is propounding. The reason he hasn't been back is because he realized this too late, and is too ashamed to come back and admit it.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at December 06, 2005 04:20 PM (0yYS2)
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Man, I just stopped by Filthy's blog.
Rob S is pictured. My advice....stay home.
Posted by: Brad at December 06, 2005 04:24 PM (3OPZt)
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I never could take anyone's advice. Dammit! Thanks, Brad.
Posted by: jesusland joe at December 06, 2005 04:44 PM (rUyw4)
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I'm just going to pretend I didnÂ’t see it. Go home, have a beer, watch the Sonics, stay out of the garage.
Posted by: Brad at December 06, 2005 05:01 PM (3OPZt)
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Rob? where the fuck are you! We're waiting!
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at December 06, 2005 05:22 PM (8e/V4)
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Hi, Rob can't come to the thread right now, cause Rob accidentally hurt himself bigtime during the course of argument. Robbie couldn't take it anymore and instead sends his stunt double.
I'll be around taking any wicked punch lines meant for him.
Posted by: Rob's Stunt Double at December 06, 2005 07:02 PM (7ZsmI)
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So naturally I go straight to Filty's blog. EGAD! When will I ever learn? (I'm guessing the guy lost a bet)
Posted by: Oyster at December 07, 2005 06:54 AM (YudAC)
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Dean is the best thing that has happened for All Repblicans running for office. Keep talking Howard!
Posted by: Andy Driggers at December 07, 2005 09:17 AM (tMU4W)
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Dean is looney tunes. A good democratic leader. Shows them in their best light.
Posted by: greyrooster at December 09, 2005 08:33 AM (SHEau)
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(UPDATED: Images/Video) American Hostage RONALD SCHULZ Threatened on Video by Islamic Army in Iraq

UPDATE: 12/08--The Jawa Report has learned that Ronald Schulz has been murdered.
See this post for update.
UPDATE III: The Jawa Report has obtained a copy of the original video. Images from it are posted below and to the right. Unlike other hostage videos, the video edits out the terrorist sitting next to American hostage Ronald Schulz. This is very different than any other IAI produced hostage video I have seen. The image right is of Ronald Schuz's passport as seen in video. Schulz can be seen in the video speaking to one of his captors, but his voice cannot be heard.
Scroll to bottom of post for images. The video is rather large, but if you would like to host it I will send it to you. A smaller version of the video can be downloaded from Ogrish. Update: The YNC also has video up. Another update: Noted terror expert Laura Mansfield also with video-Hyscience also hosting video
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Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at December 06, 2005 09:18 AM (JQjhA)
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My bad. That post has been deleted. Go ahead and leave comments here.
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at December 06, 2005 01:34 PM (JQjhA)
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Shoot, talkin' 'bout dang ol' comment, man, don' looklike nobody gon' leave no daggone comment t'night man.
Posted by: Boomhauer at December 06, 2005 07:26 PM (0yYS2)
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Ronald Schultz has been killed now. He was my father's cousin, and I grew up knowing him as Uncle Ron. The terrorists have not released the slaying video yet, but say they have killed him already.
Posted by: Kimberly at December 08, 2005 12:13 PM (OrqE/)
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Strategically, this makes little sense considering the underbelly of the beast.
wow.
Posted by: Ethan Hamm at December 08, 2005 09:23 PM (/qH5s)
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Is this the Ronald Schulz who served with the
Marines in Desert Storm? I think I served with him
in California in the early 90's
Posted by: Jim at December 09, 2005 04:09 PM (Xq6Rf)
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OUR PRAYERS GO OUT TO THE SCHULZ FAMILY AND MOST OF ALL RONALD SCHULZ. WE PRAY THAT HE IS GOING TO BE RELEASED. LARRY MCKENZIE IS HIS ONE OF HIS FIRST COUSINS AND IS VERY UPSET OVER THIS. ALL HE HAS LEFT IS HIS CHILDHOOD MEMORIES OF RON, WHICH HE WILL TREASURE FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE. GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU THAT ARE PRAYING FOR RONALD AND ALL WE CAN DO IS LEAVE IT IN GOD'S HANDS.
Posted by: Larry & Debbie McKenzie at December 14, 2005 11:14 PM (6mUkl)
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I found this site surfing, as I've been asked to speak on the radio about Ron Schulz, Terrorism and the war in Iraq. I'm truly sorry for Ron, his family, and to the world for having to deal with this menace, but turning away and losing our resolve is not the answer.
As freedom has expanded through out the world over time, this clash was inevitable. Unfortunately, I think it's going to last much longer than the current administration has planned for. There's an ideological undercurrent to it that will spur many other conflicts.
There are a few things we have to get straight before we can hope to win this fight. First is the open, sound financial management of America, which requires a complete reeorganization of our banking system. Second is a transformation for Christianity into a nature-respecting philosophy.
Aristotlean philosophy has helped me define a completely organic moral code for mankind. My new book on the subject, Moral Armor, can show you how to move through the world with complete moral certainty, and without question, arm you for what is to come.
Posted by: Ronald E. Springer at December 20, 2005 12:07 PM (SHk0/)
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what a shameless advertisment placed by Ronald E. Springer. While I mourn by surfing for details of my friends cousins death, you take advantage by promoting your political stance and what... a book?
Disgraceful use of the opportunity.
someone delete his selfish post, and take mine right with it.
Jerk
...P
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Howard Dean Traitor and Ally to Zaqueery
Hey, don’t take this Michael’s word for it. How about Michael Reagan son of the late great President Ronald Reagan who seems to know what country he lives in? Seriously Howie Dean, Howie gets all miffed when he googles himself and you are polluting my search. Go away boy you bother me. So while Mr. Dean is just the kind of energy the Democratic party needs to fisk it’s problems, the traitor thing kind of hurts. Don’t you think? If traitor Dean put that energy to exposing the enemy what good he could do! I admit I was kind of entertained by the “OH YEAH” stuff, heck I like good comedy. But I fail to find the humor in Mr. Traitor’s latest comments.
Dean Via WOIA:
What we see today is very much like what was going in Watergate," Dean said. "It turns out there is a lot of good evidence that President Bush did not tell the truth when he was asking Congress for the power to go to war. The President said last week that Congress saw the same intelligence that he did in making the decision to go to war, and that is flat out wrong.
OK Mr. Traitor, Howie says Mr. Bush is not our enemy. Drop me a line when you wake up to who the actual enemy is. Once again the Left attacks America and gives terror a free pass.
The highly respectable Michael Reagan Via Newsmax:
Howard Dean should be arrested and hung for treason or put in a hole until the end of the Iraq war!"
Now thatÂ’s a good idea.
Why is it that Joe Lieberman seems to be the only sane Democrat left in America today.
And why is he under attack for loving his country? The Left has abandoned the platform that kept it relevant and acceptable to Americans in the middle since FDR in favor of attack politics and treason. Right now IÂ’m considering my first strait ticket ballot ever in my life. I really thought Dean would be good and bring energy and core Democratic values to the Democratic Party. It seems now that hating America and loving terror is a core Democratic value.
Others: Captain Ed, Rightwingnews and Dr. Sanity to name just a few.
Oh I forgot Hat tip: Cube neighbor Dave.
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So, do we have any takers on putting Dean in a makeshift hole_until the war is over..and then some?
Posted by: thirdee at December 06, 2005 09:57 AM (1YjD5)
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The hole should include toiletries, food and satellite television.
Posted by: thirdee at December 06, 2005 09:59 AM (1YjD5)
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I think he deserves panties on his dumn head. Anything would be an improvement over having to look at him. He makes me sick.
Posted by: jesusland joe at December 06, 2005 10:22 AM (rUyw4)
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Howard Dean is a joke! Keep is up Howard, Americans are listening to you and the GOP loves your platform you have. Prediction...If Billary gets democraps nomination, Dean is out. No way she can con herself as a moderate with this scumbag running the show!
Posted by: Andy Driggers at December 06, 2005 11:55 AM (tMU4W)
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He's a caricature of a hippie in a suit with the same burnt out mentality.
Posted by: Jane at December 06, 2005 12:04 PM (M7kiy)
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DUH HOWARD DEAN TRAITOR DUH
Posted by: Danny Alexander at December 06, 2005 12:43 PM (vpJUX)
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Howard Dean and his ilk, Michael Moron, Babs, Ward "Big Chief Two White Parents" Churchill, et al, are the best thing that could happen to America right now, because letting them run loose is like that scared straight program that prisons have, where they send in punk kids to spend time with lifers, to show them their future if they don't straighten up. In reality, the liberal traitorcrats are the "lifers" and We, the People, are the kids who need to be shocked into reality. We need to be made realize that if we don't start taking politics seriously, then our future will be run by those least worthy of such a great trust. Like the saying goes, just because you don't take an interest in politics, doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you. So yeah, Dean's a traitor, along with almost every other dhimmicrat, and they should all suffer the lawful consequences of their treason, but for now, we need them to show us how bad things could get if we don't straighten up.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at December 06, 2005 02:11 PM (0yYS2)
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I still think we should give 'em half the country and then invade them when they screw it all up.
Posted by: Oyster at December 06, 2005 03:10 PM (YudAC)
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at December 06, 2005 03:13 PM (0yYS2)
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Howard Dean is an asshole.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at December 06, 2005 03:52 PM (8e/V4)
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Howard Dean is just a typical Demoncrat!
Posted by: jesusland joe at December 06, 2005 04:01 PM (rUyw4)
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But you do have to admit that with idiots like Dean, et al, around in '08, the GOP could field pretty much anyone and win.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at December 06, 2005 04:21 PM (0yYS2)
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maxie
That's why I love this guy!
Posted by: hondo at December 06, 2005 04:34 PM (3aakz)
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Does anyone remember
this statement from a year and a half ago?:
President Bush, in an interview broadcast on Monday, said he did not think America could win the war on terror but that it could make terrorism less acceptable around the world, a departure from his previous optimistic statements that the United States would eventually prevail.
See, Bush is way ahead of Dean in the "aid and comfort to the enemy" race!
Posted by: Malacandra at December 06, 2005 05:32 PM (q+O8H)
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Hey dumbass, GWOT and the Iraq war are not the exact same thing. Iraq is part of GWOT, but is not synonymous with it.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at December 06, 2005 06:05 PM (0yYS2)
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Quite true maxie
2 different but related items - and the Bush comment was specifc to the overall war on terror.
It's on video Malacandra - so no wiggle room
The connection is yours for your purposes -
and YOU KNOW your playing a lil' fast n' loose with the truth.
Posted by: hondo at December 06, 2005 06:22 PM (3aakz)
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Let me make one point about "defeating terrorism": You can't, because terrorism isn't a party, nation, or ideology, it's a method. What you can do, however, is to hound and crush anyone who employs it, and make the repercussions for its use so onerous that nobody with even a tiny, miniscule, infinitessimal fraction of a brain, (which would probably include most, if not all muslims, fascists, communists, and other assorted leftards), would consider it a viable strategy.
Terrorists can be defeated, but terrorism cannot, so it's best to stay focused on realistic, achievable goals, and stay away from the talking head soundbites.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at December 06, 2005 07:22 PM (0yYS2)
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We can also minimise our chance of being screwed by terrorists by keeping likely terrorists from our shores. A ban on islam would be a good start. Laura Mansfield and other writers have exposed the mosques as breeding grounds for hatred against the west. This has been proven time and time again and yet we let these evil structures exist in our communities. The day will come when we burn them all and drive the vermin out.
Posted by: Jester at December 06, 2005 07:57 PM (wBDaS)
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Good point Jester, but we could get off to a better start by simply prosecuting violations of standing laws against incitement to violence. If we want the government to notice and start doing something, some famous Christian preacher should stand up and call for the eradication of Jews so that the media could make a big deal of it, and then we could expose them for the hypocrites they are, because they never seem to notice all the islamic anti-Jewish hate speech.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at December 07, 2005 09:51 AM (0yYS2)
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The Blame Game
Well, you can tell that an election year is coming up. The Democrats are trying to indict Tom Delay for anything that they can possibly scrape up. Democratic mouthpieces are coming out of the woodwork to talk about how corrupt this administration is and attempting to tie them to every wrongdoer being indicted, investigated, charged or on trial. They've even trying to use the 9/11 comission in their desperate grab for power. It seems to me that when the original 9/11 report came out, they went to great lengths not to blame anyone for that horrible act of terrorism. Yes, Clinton could have done things differently. So could most Presidents before him. Of course that doesn't keep the Democrats from taking that report and attempting to point fingers.
It seems that the one thing they want to harp on most is the lack of a unified communication system for all police, fire, emergency and other first responders. The 9/11 comission had recommended this as a suggestion in their report. Now Democrats are saying that this "Republican stranglehold" on Congress is preventing anyone from doing anything to implement it. A number of Democratic congressmen are attempting to place the blame solely at the feet of the Republicans for this not happening yet. Now, I can't seem to find a straight story on the whole thing, but it looks to me as if Congress has been attempting to free up some spectrum for this for some time. There is currently a law that requires TV broadcasters to give up analog spectrum in favor of digital by December 31, 2006. Unfortunately, there was also a huge loophole left in that law. TV broadcasters only have to give up the spectrum in areas where 85% of the TV sets are digital capable. By those standards, it could take quite some time to clear that spectrum. Senator McCain (a Republican of all things) and Conrad Burns (another Republican) are attempting to change this by setting a hard date of January 1, 2009 for release of the disputed spectrum. This bill was amended in comittee (by another Republican!) to set the deadline at 2008 instead of 2009. It has currently been introduced to the Senate, but I can't find the status of it from there.
Now, there were a number of Democrats on TV last night at a press conference taking every possible shot at their Republican counterparts, and of course the emergency spectrum was something they harped on quite a bit. I don't seem to recall, however, any of them mentioning McCain's actions. But hey, maybe they just forgot. No, that couldn't be, because they actually did mention one part of McCain's bill. They mentioned the fact that the original estimate for getting the needed spectrum was $15 Billion, but the Republicans were only willing to spend $500 million on it. Their conclusion, of course, was that the Republicans wanted to put a cheap price tag on the safety of American citizens. Of course the actual truth of the matter is that passing McCain's bill will only cost a small fraction of what they started out wanting to spend. I can only see saving $14.5 million as a Good Thing.
The yammering went on for quite a while after that, but to be honest I lost interest in listening to how Evil Bush and his Republican Cronies are responsible for all the woes in our society. One of the reporters at that press conference must have gotten a little tired of it as well. He asked them why, if these issues were so important, the Democrats hadn't done anything about them. That was when the whole "Republican stranglehold" was mentioned.
So I just want to make sure that I have this straight. A conservative judge on the Supreme Court is such a horrendous threat to our American way of life that the Democrats are willing to stop the entire government from moving forward by filibuster simply to prevent him from being appointed. But when it comes to potentially saving the lives of thousands, or even millions of Americans, you are completly powerless? Something about that doesn't sound right. I'm pretty sure that any Senator or Congressman can introduce a bill. And I'm pretty sure that there are enough Democrats still in both houses that it would at least stand some reasonable chance of getting through. So take a good, hard look at yourself and give us a real answer. If this issue is as important as you say it is, are you REALLY doing everything you can to make sure it is taken care of?
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Of course the best way to defuse the democrats argument of corruption is to TAKE A STRONGER STANCE AGAINST IT We should be MORE critical of our own party than the opposition. Would you spend more time in disciplining your own children then the neighbors ? Should we as republicans appear to condone corruption in our own ?
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John, you're exactly right, and I say that if a Republican is caught in an actual, factual, verifiable incident of corruption, then ready the gallows. Of course this goes for Democrats as well, but they will destroy themselves with their own corruption eventually, which is a good thing, but we must not allow corruption within the only major party that currently holds any traditional American values.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at December 06, 2005 02:15 PM (0yYS2)
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I agree wholeheartedly.
Posted by: Oyster at December 06, 2005 03:17 PM (YudAC)
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Conversation near See-Dubya Jr's changing table
See-Dubya: WHOA! What have you been feeding this child?
Mrs. See-Dubya: The usual. Is this a bad one?
See-Dubya: It's small, but it's, like, super-concentrated.
Mrs. See-Dubya: Ew.
See-Dubya Jr.: Blee!
See-Dubya: It's like, weaponized. It's highly enriched.
Mrs. See-Dubya: Maybe we should call in the arms guy, Bara...
See-Dubya Jr. Blee?
Mrs. See-Dubya: Not the Swedish guy, the...
See-Dubya: El-Baradei?
Mrs. See-Dubya: Him. But then he'd probably just look in the diaper and be like, "Uhh...Nope. Can't find anything!"
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Why the rush? There *was* no WMD!
Posted by: fretless at December 06, 2005 10:39 AM (twzGk)
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Aw shucks a little See-Dubya.
Posted by: Howie at December 06, 2005 03:18 PM (D3+20)
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I smell a Rovian neo-con plot!
Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge at December 06, 2005 04:04 PM (y1hCN)
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Moonbats Moonbats, Roly Poly Moonbats
Moonbats, moonbats,
eat em up yum!
I swear, I voted for him, before I voted against him.
Yeah, I know, I should be beaten for sending he/she/it the traffic, but I'll redeem myself by reminding you to vote for Wuzzadem Merri Musings.
Aw Hell, vote for anyone but that bleatasticfucktard.
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Agent Jones has trawled up a treat and has received the Architect's "Diligence in Chowder Award":
As quoted from http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=147
"Norman Kember and Bluto
Friday December 02nd 2005, 9:54 am
Some guy calling himself “the Dread Pundit Bluto” is confused because Google returns Uruknet as a news site. Mr. Bluto was in search of news on Norman Kember, the Christian abducted in Iraq by the fake resistance—or alternatively one of the Pentagon’s black op counterinsurgency pseudo-gangs—and stumbled upon one of my blog entries, posted on the Uruknet site. According to Bluto, it stands to reason Kember, a pensioner in his mid-seventies with a long history of pacifism (the 1950s, according to Kember’s family, he chose to work as a hospital porter rather than enter into any form of military service), is indeed a spy, probably because Mr. Bluto, like so many Americans, believes whatever pabulum the corporate media feeds him. Of course, this should probably be expected from a guy who goes by the name of a thick-witted cartoon character.
Instead of telling us why he believes my assertion arrives from “tinfoil hat territory,” Mr. Bluto instead decides to play a semantic game, stating that white phosphorus is not a chemical weapon, as I erroneously stated in my blog entry. Indeed, white phosphorus is not technically a chemical munition, like nerve or CS gas. Instead of elaborating on this “faux pas,” Mr. Bluto mentions in passing my assertion (well enough documented) that the Pentagon is running counterinsurgency ops in Iraq and concludes I am insane. Of course, as a good (brainwashed) American, Mr. Bluto believes the Bushcons and the Pentagon are sincerely incapable of such behavior and naturally Arabs and Muslims are responsible for such. Yes, of course, and Saddam had a tea party with Osama, and Saddam showed Osama his shiny new aluminum tubes. I know this because Judith Miller and crew told me so. Never mind that Judy now admits to being a scurrilous liar, although she does not characterize herself as such (she simply made “mistakes” contributing to the mass murder of over 100,000 Iraqis).
Normally, I ignore chowderheads such as Mr. Bluto, real name unknown. But I couldn’t resist because the guy is a primary example of the typical brainwashed American completely void on the subject of military and intelligence history.
Mr. Bluto is the prototypical American no-nothing."
Agent Brown, dumfounded, asks Dread Pundit's response..
Posted by: Agent Smith at December 06, 2005 06:44 AM (VX7Tm)
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Agent Brown evidently goes thru much of his day dumbfounded. As for me, the best response Bluto could render would be a vicious sweaty teabagging.
Posted by: Blovis at December 06, 2005 08:55 AM (zDc/G)
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don't fall for it, Mad Dog.
it's all a game, and it's all about the numbers. no matter how crappy the content, it's all about the numbers.
Posted by: MacStansbury at December 06, 2005 01:09 PM (FmdLR)
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numbers, numbuz, numb buzz
Posted by: Jane at December 06, 2005 07:10 PM (6krEN)
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Agent Schizo:
http://dreadpundit.blogspot.com/2005/12/captain-nimmo-attacks.html
So far, it's generated 69 comments, with uch hilarity resulting from the attempts of Nimmo's moonbat supporters to agree on a Grand Unified Theory of Conspiracies.
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Idiots will believe anything.
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Religion of Peace Jamboree
(Riyadh, Saudi Arabia) Kings and presidents of the 57 nations comprising the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) will meet for an emergency
summit meeting tomorrow in the city of Mecca. Saudi King Abdullah bin Abdel Aziz called the meeting to discuss the Muslim world's pressing issues and predicaments. According to OIC officials, the meeting's
emphasis will be "reforming, restructuring, and redefining the OIC charter and its mission."
Specific agenda items to be considered include:
- Adoption of a 10-year plan to restructure the Islamic nation,
- Approve a name change for the OIC to "Organization of Islamic Countries,"
- Discuss and implement proposals to address Islamophobia,
- Implement a strengthened Islamic academy of jurists to issue unified fatwas,
- Discuss and implement reduced obstacles to trade and business among Muslim countries,
- Discuss proposals for the empowerment of women, and
- Discuss a proposal for OIC member countries to collectively design and build a passenger plane. Late-night joke writers take note.
My thinking is that the idea of unified fatwas should have been implemented long ago. The current system seems to allow anyone to issue a fatwa about anything at any time. In
my estimation, there are more controls on fortune cookies than fatwas.
Notably, the leaders of all 57 member states of the OIC have been invited to the meeting with the exception of non-Muslim leaders. Non-Muslims are not allowed in Mecca (Makkah). According to OIC spokesman Atta Mannan, "Reports in the local media that they would monitor the proceedings on closed circuit television in Jeddah are not true," he said. "We can't expect the heads of state to sit in Jeddah while the summit is taking place in Makkah," he said. "They will, however, be represented by high-level delegations."
OIC Secretary General Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu stated that the body wants to have a significant role in resolutions adopted by the UN. He also stated that the OIC should have a seat on the UN Security Council. The summit is planned to end on Thursday.
Companion post at Interested-Participant.
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This should be a productive meeting. On par with all the others in the past that have produced so many changes and benefits.
Just some thoughts on this one:
Adoption of a 10 year plan to restructure the Islamic Nation.......to include Britain, France, Spain, Germany, Italy, Sweden, Holland and Denmark
Discuss proposals for the empowerment of women....by providing them with better kitchen appliances and heavier, more durable burqas, possibly without the pesky breathing holes.
Discuss a proposal for OIC member countries to design and build a passenger plane.......economics are promising since issues such as performance and durability are negated due to each plane only having to make a one way trip.
As a side note, design and construction in the Middle East has a completely different meaning. Since memorising the Koran doesn't make one an engineer, design and construction translates as "we'll write the cheques, pay the bribes and get the infidels to do all the work for us - as we have done with every other project considered to be a source of national pride in the region".
Posted by: Graeme at December 06, 2005 06:09 AM (Bfqxr)
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They should not limit themselves to opening up trade within Muslim countries, they should ponder buisness with all countries. Egypt comes to mind. India. This should also be lumped in with Empowerment of Muslim women. Enough of handicapping your economy by forbidding the contributions of women.
Pick up a glove and get in the game!
Posted by: Dave K at December 06, 2005 09:03 AM (YaR8u)
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An ideal opportunity for ridding the world of such human garbage in one foul swoop. If only I had a tactical bomb...
Posted by: Jester at December 06, 2005 02:03 PM (wBDaS)
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...and if non-muslims are not allowed in Mecca why do we let muslims into the west?
Posted by: Jester at December 06, 2005 02:05 PM (wBDaS)
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Sounds to me like a good place for a tactial nuke to show up unannounced.
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Ha. A muslim passenger plane. How do you build a aircraft with a big hump on top? Friggin camel jockeys couldn't build a ball point pen.
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December 05, 2005
Are You Feeling Lucky?
The Weblog Awards are fully functional, so
vote for me! (Armies of Liberation)
Please? Why? Because I've recently been called a mass murder. And you never know, it could be true....
Also I'd like to second Vinnie on the Cotillion and note that Vince Aut Morire *is* an acceptable alternative to me.
But whatever you do, Vote for Jawa!!!.
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best blog - LGF
best conservative blog - Jawa
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at December 05, 2005 09:09 PM (8e/V4)
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I'm sorry but I had to vote for Pamela at Atlas Shrugs; she's completely off the hottitude chart.
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Wham Bam Thank Ya Ma'am
Left these out of my earlier post. My bad.
The Cotillion, for Best Group Blog (all female, all group, trust me, vote for them, they love you long time. They should consider changing the name to Hot Lesbo Star Wars Chicks though. Oh wait, that's taken)
And, defeating my own purpose, I'll be throwing a vote (when my 24 hours are up) to fellow Jawa Interested Participant.
Come to think of it, isn't it time we nominated the good Mr. Pechar for a munu blog?
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I'm just wishing I wasn't nominated into the same category as Jawa Report. I don't stand a chance.
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Blog Sabbath Caption Contest: I Overslept Edition ***Fatwas Issued***
Heh. I told Rusty I'd do this last night, but then I crashed on the couch and didn't get back up.

Fatwas will be issued Monday afternoon, which, now that we're almost in winter and back on standard time, is now evening.
***Fatwas issued...will the following people please remove their heads and come to the front of the class***
Winner: hondo, for ""Just how many of these soda cans do we need to continue funding our glorious insurgency?"
"Just shut up n' keep looking! Ali will be here soon with the shopping cart.""
Honorable mention:
Graeme for ""Hey Ahmed, to sit next to that trash you must be soooooooooooo gellin'!"
"I'm gellin' like a rape room felon. You want the melon? Or it might be squash.....It's hard to tell with all these flies around."" (if he would have just worked in the word smellin' - Vinnie)
Mad Man for ""I shouldn't have blown up our cleaning lady.""
Thanks all for a blessedly short one this week! Heh!
Don't forget to VOTE!
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"Just how many of these soda cans do we need to continue funding our glorious insurgency?"
"Just shut up n' keep looking! Ali will be here soon with the shopping cart."
Posted by: hondo at December 04, 2005 10:42 AM (3aakz)
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"Hey Ahmed, to sit next to that trash you must be soooooooooooo gellin'!"
"I'm gellin' like a rape room felon. You want the melon? Or it might be squash.....It's hard to tell with all these flies around."
Posted by: Graeme at December 04, 2005 11:14 AM (MzETg)
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Ack, Ackmed! I saw infidel MacGyver make a rocketlauncher from drainpipe and soda can such as this, pass me another rubber band, Allah Ackbar!
Posted by: dave at December 04, 2005 11:45 AM (CcXvt)
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When is Cindy Sheeman coming to get all her unsold books, cause I'm getting sick of waiting?
Posted by: thirdee at December 04, 2005 01:18 PM (H/s/E)
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"Freegans" with Food Not Bombs dumpster dive in Iraq to help eliminate hunger by recycling excess food. "It's a weird Robin Hood kinda thing", says one freegan. "The U.S. builds bombs, and we dumpster dive. So it all evens out in the end."
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at December 04, 2005 01:26 PM (8e/V4)
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Well you guys just shot to hell any chance that I'm gonna make a witty comment. Oh what the hell.
"They can take our lives, but they can never take... OUR GARBAAAAAGE!!!"
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at December 04, 2005 01:46 PM (0yYS2)
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Agent Smith's writers wade through the comic material for his latest stand-up show.
Posted by: Jester at December 04, 2005 01:51 PM (wBDaS)
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Good point Jester -
It may be a team effort - his material is shotgunned but some of it is quite good and there does appear to be a slightly different texture to it on occasion.
Posted by: hondo at December 04, 2005 02:33 PM (3aakz)
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Cindy Sheeman's ghostwriting team decides suicide is not the answer after last week's book signing flop.
Posted by: thirdee at December 04, 2005 03:05 PM (H/s/E)
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Contrary to popular belief, Al Queda did NOT recently purchase Waste Management. Stock analysts believe that these rumors were started by Waste Management customers who believe that even a group of towelheads could run a better trash pick-up company.
Posted by: Steve Sharon at December 04, 2005 03:54 PM (Xkt0+)
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"I shouldn't have blown up our cleaning lady."
Posted by: Mad Man at December 04, 2005 05:17 PM (K6g1B)
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"Ahmed, just where did we hide that IE........kaboom!!!!!!!Oh, shittttttt, Ahmed, the infidels were right, and I don't even like raisins!!!!!!!!
Posted by: jesusland joe at December 04, 2005 07:38 PM (rUyw4)
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Agent Jones says, "Don't Mess with Texas".
Posted by: Agent Smith at December 05, 2005 05:36 AM (qLtuI)
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"See, Mohammed. I told you that was a garbage truck we blew up. Not a specialized Humvee, you moron. Now we have to hide in alleys full of this stuff. Wait a minute ... is that a cumin cake?"
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On Saving Saddam
Looking at pictures from
carnivale (a.k.a. The Saddam Show in Baghdad), I noticed a few things. First, the odd similarities between "President" Hussein and Don Flamenco from
Mike Tyson's Punch Out. Compare Don with
the picture in this post and judge for yourself:

See? Anyway, that was an unimportant point, as I have NES flashbacks constantly. Beyond that, I came to a startling conclusion. We MUST save Saddam Hussein. We cannot let him die. His DNA is too important to piss away, especially since his sons met a far nobler end (well, as noble as perishing in a shootout with a teenage boy in your company can be).
But why must Saddam live?
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Posted by: Macktastick Rusty Wicked at December 05, 2005 05:39 PM (JQjhA)
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'Punch Out' rules. That was the good 'ole days when you could create a video game and give all of the boxers names or other things that poked fun of their nationality or appearance. I can't remember any of their names but there was the Indian (dots, not feathers) dude with the turban that I seem to remember was also a snake charmer. And the swarthy Italian guy. And the severely obese redneck that couldn't get back up when you knocked him down. And ...
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I believe the dothead was Great Tiger. He thinks he's hot, but he's not!
I always liked Soda Popinski. Once I saw him, I knew the Soviets could never win the Cold War. I mean, come on, Super Macho Man (from Hollywood, with moving man-boobs) was ahead of Soda in the rankings. Ah, the subtle lessons Punch Out taught us.... capitalism will always triumph!
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Agent Jones says "Saddam" would not sell well, as it is a musty fragrance.
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The Erotic Bible Calendar

Finally a calendar that says "I'm Christian" and "I love to lust after nude women" all in one. Move over Hooker Headers, here comes the erotic bible calendar! I'm thinking that
Professor Chaos might finally be won over to Jebus with this one.
You can see some of the calendar here. (NSFW or Church or Synagogue and definitely NSFM [not safe for mosque]) Unfortunately for you pervs, the calendar is sold out.
Perhaps the most disturbing thing about this--besides the fact that's it's a fundraiser for a Christian youth group--is the fact that there is a disclaimer on the site that reveals that some of the models were under 18. So, is this German 'Christian' organization peddling child-porn for Jesus?
I guess that simply being nude doesn't meet the legal requirement for child pornography, but it is kind of creepy. I mean, exactly what do these people think guys are going to be doing while looking at these hot young chicks in erotic poses? Contemplating the mysteries of the Trinity?
Apparently the kids who were over 16 but under 18 had permission from their parents to pose nude for the calendar. Yeah, I'll let my little Grettle pose nude, I mean, as long as it's for Christ. This is equally disturbing.
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First Gutenberg, and now this. Those Germans are really on the cutting edge of Biblical production... but I have to question the, um, quality of the models. I'm just sayin, is all.
Posted by: Wine-aholic at December 05, 2005 03:42 PM (Wsn+K)
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mmm....Genesis 3, anyone? Maybe they didn't get that far in their Bible study yet before someone came up with the calendar idea....
I almost posted about this yesterday with the title "unclear on the concept", but I figured they wouldn't need the publicity.
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Don't forget America != Europe, the United Kingdom for example has the age of consent set at sixteen. I believe Samantha Fox first posed topless in the Sun tabloid newspaper at the age of sixteen.
Posted by: dave at December 05, 2005 04:50 PM (CcXvt)
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I've lived and worked in Germany for a number of years. Loved the place and people - but they are one strange people and all over the map on values with everything subject to change in 15 minutes.
A lil' bit like the Weimar Republic - life is a cabaret and nude calendars shot in churches with underage girls.
Posted by: hondo at December 05, 2005 04:50 PM (3aakz)
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Somewhere, Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson are each lying on the floor of their office having oxygen administered by a paramedic.
This should prove nicely a fundamental difference between Islam and Christianity. Let's wait and see how many fatal riots occur around the world over this.
Posted by: Graeme at December 05, 2005 05:04 PM (J8y8z)
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There's not likely to be too much titillation over this calendar, that one girl's a straight-up dog.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at December 05, 2005 05:28 PM (0yYS2)
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Hmmm, Grame, interesting idea.
"Erotic Koran Calendar: Featurning 72 Underage Girls"
Posted by: Macktastick Rusty Wicked at December 05, 2005 05:41 PM (JQjhA)
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I wish these fools would do a Koran calendar. I can see it now, or maybe I can't see it at all. Let's see, the girl in the burqa posing in front of the Al Akba-al Queds mosque, and the girl posing on the beach in her burqa-suit, and the girl walking down the runway in her stylish stretch burqa, and well...are you getting the picture?
Posted by: jesusland joe at December 05, 2005 05:44 PM (rUyw4)
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Dude, what the f is wrong with German people? /Kyle voice
Posted by: Maureen at December 05, 2005 05:48 PM (ny5O/)
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Germans really are a lively bunch. My favorite bartender is from Germany. She said when the wall came down and
all those damn commies (her words) swarmed over she wished they'd all just go back and replace the wall. She couldn't stand it and was happy to move to the states and become a citizen. She's learned English fluently but learned it in the south. Now she has a southern twang with a German accent. She's a real character.
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Bernard Planche of FRANCE Taken HOSTAGE in Iraq

A French civilian has been taken hostage in Iraq. His name is
Bernard Planche. He is reported to be a civil engineer helping to rebuild Iraq. This would be the fourth French hostage taken in Iraq since the beginning of the war.
Forbes:
Masked gunmen grabbed a French engineer off the streets of Baghdad on Monday, the latest in a spate of kidnappings of Westerners that coincides with Saddam Hussein's trial and the run-up to parliamentary elections. ...
French officials had also warned Planche, who was abducted from outside his home in the Mansour district of the capital, French Foreign Ministry spokesman Jean-Baptiste Mattei said.
The kidnappers used three cars to surrounded Planche and take him away, police Capt. Qassim Hussein said. Planche is the head of mission for a group that works on U.S.-funded water projects.
Diplomats have said they are in close contact with Iraqi authorities to win the release of the hostages.
That makes 6 Westerners taken hostage in the last week. All of them either in Iraq as anti-war activists or from countries that were against the Iraq invasion.
See The Jawa Report's hostage page for more.
Developing...
Planche was in Iraq to work on water sanitation projects, much like American hostage Jeffrey Ake. He worked for AACCESS a U.N. recognized NGO and which was funded by the U.S. Army. Your mujahidin at work........
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I'm glad collaboration is working so well for them.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at December 05, 2005 03:28 PM (0yYS2)
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My first guess is that this is a hostage-for-money situation. But that's a guess.
Posted by: Macktastick Rusty Wicked at December 05, 2005 03:44 PM (JQjhA)
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Let me take a guess as to the eventual French reaction: if President Bush wasn't trying to improve Iraq's water system, this never would have happened. Bush is to blame - now everyone open their cheque books.
Posted by: Graeme at December 05, 2005 04:54 PM (J8y8z)
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Frenchtard working for U.S. Funded projects. What's wrong with that picture. Shouldn't U.S. funded jobs go to those on our side?
Posted by: greyrooster at December 05, 2005 05:42 PM (9Dlss)
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Agent Jones replies, "you have no pride."
Posted by: Agent Smith at December 06, 2005 06:18 AM (VX7Tm)
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Nice point, Greyrooster, good job!
Your side? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I wasn't aware that America was at war with France.
It's a good job you've got enough oil money to throw at building a water monopoly, what with having to pay all these "frenchtards".
Fuck unity and international relations, right? GO AMERICA!
It really is a case of U.S. and Them, isn't it?
Posted by: Fi at December 07, 2005 10:50 AM (P5M2Y)
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?Are the french losing a soldier everday for the past 3 years . I guess collaboration is looking good in terms of body count.
Posted by: Eric at December 07, 2005 07:25 PM (fU7MX)
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france will soon have more muslims then naitive french.........................................
Posted by: london defense force at December 08, 2005 07:36 PM (sIh+B)
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Fi: Try reading the newspapers or listen the news on TV. You seem to forget the behavior of the Frenchtards prior to the war in Iraq and after the war started.
The French are ungrateful frogs with short memories. They are without national pride and have gone butts up to the muslim and african hoardes the dumbshits have allowed to enter their nation. Soon their will be no france. Personally, I was sad to the the riots in france stop. But, I know there will be more and much worse.
Posted by: greyrooster at December 09, 2005 08:27 AM (SHEau)
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i am french and wish my country acted like it had balls.
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france aint so bad.
but aint is a scary thought. just imagine if the french were trying to take over the world like the muslims............
or even worse, french muslims taking over........
dread to think about it......garlic smelling sandkoons
aarrrrrrrggggggghhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Islamic Jihad Targets Civilians

Islamic Jihad has claimed responsibility for today's murders of Israeli shoppers near a Netanya mall. While such acts of terror are nothing new from Palestinian terrorists, the image above and to the right shows just why this is a much larger problem. It is a photo of an Islamic Jihad rally in Gaza. The rally is both
public and
sanctioned by the Palestinian Authority.
The image below was taken at an Islamic Jihad press conference. Yes, you got that right, this was taken at a press conference held by various terrorist organizations and known by the Palestinian Authority.
Whatever happened to the Bush Doctrine of treating terrorists and the states that sponsor them alike? Clearly, the Palestinian Authority is much more closely linked to terrorist organizations than Iraq ever was.
Via Charles Johnson this JPOST article:
Four people were killed and 66 were wounded - three seriously - in an explosion that rocked the entrance to the Hasharon shopping mall on Herzl Street in Netanya at 11:25 a.m. Monday morning. Another person died on the operating table at Laniado Hospital in Netanya.
Police Insp.-Gen. Moshe Karadi told reporters that the bomber was "identified 15 meters in front of the mall by policemen and a security guard. Police managed to keep him away from the gate, and he blew himself up when police approached him to conduct a search of his bags."...
The Islamic Jihad took responsibility for the attack in a phone call to Palestinian journalists, identifying the bomber as Lutfi Amin Abu Salem, a resident of the northern West Bank village of Kafr Rai, located between the towns of Jenin and Tulkarm.
File under: how about giving these guys a full-fledged, U.N. voting state?
Check out Powerline with images from mall.
Others: ITB, Interested Participant,
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Islam is a religion of peace, Arafart was a peacemaker, and I'm the Easter Bunny. Nothing to see here. Move along.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at December 05, 2005 12:22 PM (0yYS2)
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By all means, let's give these people a country.
Posted by: jesusland joe at December 05, 2005 01:19 PM (rUyw4)
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A bit of humor from a friend in California...
NEW ELEMENT FOUND!
The recent hurricanes and skyrocketing oil and gasoline prices helped to prove the existence of a new element. In early October 2005, a major research institution announced the discovery of the heaviest element yet known to science. The new element has been named "Governmentium."
Governmentium (Gv) has one neutron, 25 assistant neutrons, 88 deputy neutrons, and 198 assistant deputy neutrons, giving it an atomic mass of 312. These 312 particles are held together by forces called 'morons' which are surrounded by vast quantities of lepton-like particles called 'peons.' Since Gv has no electrons, it is inert. However, it can be detected, because it impedes every reaction with which it comes into contact. A minute amount of Gv causes one reaction to take over four days to complete, when it would normally take less than a second!
Gv has a normal half-life of 4 years; it does not decay; but instead undergoes a reorganization in which a portion of the assistant neutrons and deputy neutrons exchange places. In fact,Governmentium's mass will actually increase over time, since each reorganization will cause more morons to become neutrons, forming 'isodopes.' This characteristic of moron promotion leads most scientists to believe that Gv is formed whenever morons reach a certain quantity in concentration. This hypothetical quantity is referred to as 'Critical Morass.'
When catalyzed with money, Gv becomes "Administratium' (Am) - an element which radiates just as much energy as Gv, since it has half as many peons but twice as many morons.
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The asswipe in the ski mask could be used on lefty humanitarian posters:
This is Khaleed. He lives in Gaza and is ruthlessly oppressed by evil Zionists and their American weapons. When Khaleed isn't trying to kill one of his sisters for dishonouring his family, he must struggle to survive. Everyday at first light, he goes to the nearby highway where he shoots at passing cars and school buses in an attempt to get them to stop and 'donate' money and valuables which he will then use to buy essential items such as anti-personnel mines for self defense against the Zionist enemy. You can make a difference in Khaleed's life. For just one dollar a day, you can provide him and others like him with a new M-16 rifle, ammunition, an education in beheading and explosives use and help in locating his sister who married the Afghan car salesman without permission. Please donate now.
Posted by: Graeme at December 05, 2005 02:03 PM (J8y8z)
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Please 'do' give them a state aka country...then the Isralies (and thier allies) will be well within international laws to strike them as legtimate hostile nation, who pose an ongoing eminent threat...responsible for the wrath of full and devasting force...once they attain statehood, the legal gloves come off...no more UN jew bashing decrees.
Posted by: Grim at December 05, 2005 02:26 PM (6krEN)
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I like your thinking Grim.....
Posted by: Macktastick Rusty Wicked at December 05, 2005 02:35 PM (JQjhA)
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If I was as ugly as that camel jockey I would be a terrorist too. Who hatches these animals. They have to be the ugliest people in the world.
Posted by: greyrooster at December 05, 2005 05:46 PM (9Dlss)
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Greyrooster I knew I could depend on you for a decent assessment of that photo...I couldn't have said it better myself.
Posted by: Jester at December 05, 2005 06:02 PM (wBDaS)
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Right now I watching a rerun of Jurassic Park. I wonder?
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I tell ya one thing, if I came from a stone-age culture and was sodomized up until puberty, I'd become a suicide bomber too.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at December 05, 2005 07:24 PM (0yYS2)
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Agent Brown asks, "Is he one of yours?"
Posted by: Agent Smith at December 06, 2005 05:51 AM (VX7Tm)
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Somebody Forgot to Tell the Troops That They're "Worn Out"
When US Representative Jack Murtha publicly characterized our troops as "broken, worn out" and "living hand-to-mouth," I decided to check the allegation out. Since Murtha was complaining mainly about military equipment, I reasoned that the symptoms would show up at major theater repair depots.
So I sought out the opinion of an NCO I know, who supervises mechanics at Camp Arifjan in Kuwait. Early in his deployment, this soldier had mentioned trouble getting parts and snafus like the engines of some "up-armored" Humvees not being able to handle the extra weight of the armor.
The sergeant had not heard about Murtha's comments; outside news sources are few at Arifjan, and the soldiers there are too busy keeping things in good repair to spend time surfing the 'net.

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Murtha = Lying Traitor
Army = Kicking Ass, Taking Names
Dhimmicrats = Treasonous Scum
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at December 05, 2005 12:24 PM (0yYS2)
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they're not worn out, the force is "broken"!
dumbasses!
Posted by: Jawa and all Jawa supporters....Suck! at December 05, 2005 12:48 PM (/3n/k)
Posted by: dave at December 05, 2005 12:50 PM (CcXvt)
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Yeah, right Suckbaby, tell it to your friends, who are getting their asses kicked every time they stand up to fight. But they are nothing but little chickenshits, just like you, posing under a stupid nick.
Posted by: jesusland joe at December 05, 2005 01:23 PM (rUyw4)
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Every day liberals make it harder to argue against dumping them into mass graves.
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Come on lil' jawa ... - be truly bold n' don't play this whinney weinie legalistic semantic game of the wishy-washy Dems ... "broken???????"
be proud n' say it ...
"We are defeated! we have lost! We must retreat!"
Broken is a discriptive adjective but it is also extremely vague, and open to selective interpretation with implied "nuiances" (love that word).
The Dems use language like this to "walk the line"- to give them the option of saying "I didn't mean it that way".
If they did come out boldly and clear - then the American public would demand 2 things ...
1) Some realistic degree of PROOF of our defeat provided by (guess who) the MEDIA! This would put the media on the spot! They can slant the news, focus solely on hardships suffered by the Iraqi people (from the insurgency - its unavoidable) and other issues ... but they can't actually show a "DEFEAT"! Nor can them Dems for that matter. (note HRC is currently trying out "mis-managed")
2) The American people would fully expect the Dems to end it with bills and votes in Congress!!!!!!!! Not press-releases or 15 minutes on Face the Nation! And that is not happening!
Everyone note - the Dems may not be doing anything to help the war effort (and some trying to undermine it) - but none are actually trying to stop it with their congressional authority and powers.
An old (& now conservative) term many here would understand
NO BALLS NO GLORY
Posted by: hondo at December 05, 2005 02:11 PM (3aakz)
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rummy spoke of the left-wing meme - that the army is broken, and called it unadutlerated BS (NOT his words!).
he said that the army is stronger, better trained, better experienced now than at any time EVER in our history.
also: he cautioned against using NUMBERS to grade the military.
3 smart bombs are more effective than 50 dumb bombs.
ditto other miltary assets - including service members.
so: murtha is just flat out WRONG!
he should be tried and shot for treason. or hung. or whatever: as long as they kill him. after a trial.
ramsey clark can defend him. heh.
Posted by: reliapundit at December 05, 2005 02:28 PM (Ja1vM)
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Murtha has taken a noble 37 career in the military and a long career in government acquiring the title of the guy who "gets things done" and thrown it all in the crapper. He'll rue the day he hooked up with Babs Boxer.
Posted by: Oyster at December 05, 2005 03:15 PM (fl6E1)
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If I had a nickel for everytime I threatened to behead someone, I would be some scumball taking civilian hostages. Hmm, that makes no sense. Either way, the staff at the Guardian are still pussies.
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The Struggle to Gauge a War's Psychological Cost
By BENEDICT CAREY
Published: November 26, 2005
http://tinyurl.com/cltz5
A continuing study of combat units that served in Iraq has found that about 17 percent of the personnel have shown serious symptoms of depression, anxiety or post-traumatic stress disorder - characterized by intrusive thoughts, sleep loss and hyper-alertness, among other symptoms - in the first few months after returning from Iraq, a higher rate than in Afghanistan but thought to be lower than after Vietnam.
In interviews, many members of the services and psychologists who had completed extended tours in Iraq said they had battled feelings of profound grief, anger and moral ambiguity about the effect of their presence on Iraqi civilians.
Psychologists and psychiatrists on the ground have to break through the mental toughness that not only keeps troops fighting but also prevents them from seeking psychological help, which is viewed as a sign of weakness. And they have been among the first to identify
the mental reactions particular to this war.
One of them, these experts say, is profound, unreleased anger. Group cohesion is strong, and the bonds only deepen in the hostile desert terrain of Iraq. For these tight-knit groups, certain kinds of ambushes - roadside bombs, for instance - can be mentally devastating, for a variety of reasons. "These guys go out in convoys, and boom: the first vehicle gets hit, their best friend dies, and now they're seeing life flash before them and get a surge of adrenaline and want to do something," said Lt. Col. Alan Peterson, an Air Force psychologist who completed a tour in Iraq last year. "But often there's nothing they can do. There's no enemy there."
Another powerful factor is ambiguity about the purpose of the mission, and about Iraqi civilians' perception of the American presence. The Americans had been handing out candy to children and helping residents fix their houses the day before the ambush, and they felt they had been set up, he said.
The entire unit, he said, was coursing with rage, asking: "What are we doing here? Why aren't the Iraqis helping us?"
The emotional casualties, Colonel Ritchie said, are "not just an Army medical problem, but a problem that the V.A. system, the civilian system and the society as a whole must work to solve."
That is the one thing all seem to agree on. Some veterans, like Sergeant Flanders and Sergeant Willis, have reconnected with other men in their units to help with their psychological adjustment to home life. Sergeant Willis has been transferred to noncombat duty at Camp Pendleton, in an environment he knows and enjoys, and he can see Commander Hoyt when he needs to. Sergeant Flanders is studying to be an officer.
But others, particularly reservists and National Guard troops, have landed right back in civilian society with no one close to them who has shared their experience.
Specialist Pickett, since her return, has felt especially cut off from the company she trained and served with. She has struggled at school, and with the Veterans Affairs system to get counseling, and no one near her has had an experience remotely like hers. She has tried antidepressants, which have helped reduce her suicidal thinking.
She has also joined Operation Truth, a nonprofit organization that represents Iraq veterans, which has given her some comfort.
Finally, she said, she has been searching her memory and conscience for reasons to justify the pain of her experience: no one, Specialist Pickett said, looks harder for justification than a soldier.
Dr. Marlowe, the former chief of psychiatry at Walter Reed, knows from studying other wars that this is so.
"The great change among American troops in Germany during the Second World War was when they discovered the concentration camps," Dr. Marlowe said. "That immediately and forever changed the moral appreciation for why we were there."
As soldiers return from Iraq, he said, "it will be enormously important for those who feel psychologically disaffected to find something which justifies the killing, and the death of their friends."
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>>>"they're not worn out, the force is "broken"
hondo,
their whiny talk isn't all that hard to decipher. Here is a direct translation from the Libspeak: the U.S. must be defeated at all costs and our troops withdrawn with tail tucked securely between legs so that Democrats can win in '08. Should America win the Iraq war, Democrats are toast for the next 40 years.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at December 05, 2005 08:45 PM (8e/V4)
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Agent Jones quotes Donald H. Rumsfeld, "You go to war with the Army you have, not the Army you might want or wish to have."
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Hostage Video: "We are being treated well"
We have finally obtained portions of the unedited hostage video of four Western peace activists. The names of the four activists are American Thomas Fox--
who is also a blogger, Canadians Harmeet Singh Sooden and James Loney, and British citizen Norman Kember.
The Jawa Report was the first media outlet to reveal the names of the hostages.
You can watch the video here (hat tip: Shawn at Bareknucklepolitics, Ian at Political Teen, and Doubletap at Infovlad--all of whom e-mailed me)
Here is a transcript of the video, via Doubletap at Infovlad:
Thank you very much we are being treated well and we hope to be out of here soon.
Um We are being treated well we are both well all of us are well.
We are all being treated well we are sleeping ok um and um we would like to thank the people holding us for that and hopefully we will be home soon.
I ask Mr Blair to take British troops out of Iraq and leave the Iraqi people to come to their own decisions on their government.
As a representative of Christian Peace Maker Teams we feel that continued British and American occupation is not in the best interest of the Iraqi people.
The peace activists seem much more reluctant than Giuliana Sgrena to pour out their emotions.
We will be following this hostage crisis carefully.
Developing.......
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It's hard to pour out your emotions when you're trying to stay on script. I wonder how many millions this scam will net the terrorists and their liberal/socialist/fascist/communist allies?
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at December 05, 2005 10:52 AM (0yYS2)
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See. It's true. The terrorists aren't evil and wicked and deserving of death. They just share a "different perspective".
Posted by: thirdee at December 05, 2005 11:02 AM (kBsuN)
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Just more jihadist propaganda for the Western media to lap up.
Posted by: jesusland joe at December 05, 2005 11:12 AM (rUyw4)
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I'm witholding judgement on this incident until the first deadline passes.
Posted by: MCPO Airdale at December 05, 2005 11:30 AM (WOQ34)
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Anyone else think this whole thing is staged to get the kidnappers some publicity?
"We are being treated well... yes... very well! Thanks to our kidnappers! Totally, man!"
I bet they just want to show the world how "nice and innocent" the terrorists are... and how eeeeeeeevil Bush and Blair are for attacking them.
Posted by: Ariya at December 05, 2005 11:59 AM (+sjRV)
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From Jihad Watch:
CAIR protests kidnapping of collaborators
Has CAIR ever protested against the kidnapping of anyone else in Iraq? If so, please send me the links here and I will post them as updates. But this protest of the kidnapping of the collaborators is the first one I personally can recall ever seeing from them. From "Frenchman target of latest Iraq kidnapping," from AFP, with thanks to Jeffrey Imm:
Just a day earlier, one of the most prominent US Muslim organizations, the Council on American-Islamic Relations, became the latest group to demand the release of the four Western Christian peace activists kidnapped last week.
The two Canadians, one Briton and an American, are linked to the US and Canada-based Christian Peacemaker Teams opposed to the continued presence of US-led foreign troops in Iraq.
"Those who left the comfort of their homes to advocate for the rights of others that do not share their faith, ethnicity or language should be celebrated and honored by Muslims, not humiliated by being made captives or, God forbid, killed," said Parvez Ahmed, the organization's chairman.
"This is a universal human ideal and a cherished principle of Islam."
In other words, "They're on your side, you idiots. Let them go."
So, I'm not just a voice crying in the wilderness.
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"Those who left the comfort of their homes to advocate for the rights of others that do not share their faith, ethnicity or language should be celebrated and honored by Muslims, not humiliated by being made captives or, God forbid, killed,"
Who wants to ask CAIR, seeing as that profile matches the U.S armed forces, if they want to condemn terrorism in Iraq now?
Posted by: dave at December 05, 2005 12:24 PM (CcXvt)
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They're only trying to condemn the kidnapping of their dhimmi allies. Duh.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at December 05, 2005 12:25 PM (0yYS2)
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I was trying for 'irony'
Posted by: dave at December 05, 2005 12:42 PM (CcXvt)
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Treated well except for that held captive and threatened with death part.
Posted by: Howie at December 05, 2005 12:49 PM (D3+20)
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They are not hostages - they are simply guests under alternative circumstances.
Posted by: hondo at December 05, 2005 01:08 PM (3aakz)
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Ah hell they're probably having tea parties every evening.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at December 05, 2005 01:51 PM (0yYS2)
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Tea parties, clean clothes and looks like they are having showers too. Dont seem too bad
Posted by: Patti at December 05, 2005 02:35 PM (2hEo4)
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Lets do something about the video. I mean we cant get a better FTP site than that? Standard Windows Media Players cant access the video, even if you save target as. We are only allowed to update the Player so much.
And btw, you get plenty military who access your site.
Nice job GW!!!!!
Posted by: Capster at December 05, 2005 02:38 PM (JF5DO)
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Greg the child molesting traitor will believe everything in the captives speech. Prood to him that America is bad.
Posted by: greyrooster at December 05, 2005 05:51 PM (9Dlss)
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Scarry...The Canadians are eating and well dressed. The Brit and American are dressed up like prisoners...Hand-cuffs etc...I wonder what message they are sending....
Posted by: Bill at December 05, 2005 05:51 PM (snZLy)
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Mr. Anderson, you disappoint me.
Posted by: Agent Smith at December 06, 2005 05:54 AM (VX7Tm)
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Has there been anymore information about the CPT workers?
Posted by: Jill at December 07, 2005 08:53 AM (pbum3)
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Shackleford Opts for Free Agency
Despite rumors, started by
Hugh Hewitt, of being picked in the fourth round by ABC News, Rusty Shackleford has opted to sit out a year and then enter the MSM as a free-agent. Fourth round? Who do you think I am, Wonkette!?!?!
See-Dub offers some more suggestions here.
Speaking of bloggy goodness, John Hawkins of Right Wing News has the annual warbloggers awards up. I'm pretty dissappointed at not being named 'Most Annoying Right-of-Center Blogger'. Personally, I think Andrew Sullivan is less annoying than he is predictable and trite. But that's just me.
Ever want to know what Rusty Shackleford looks like? The Commissar has made a RINO map with yours truly prominently featured as the left leg. And yes, I can occasionally tell my left from my right.
Confederate Yankee pimps the world's largest gun-porn.
The Autonomist has more on that jackarse John Murtha (D-France).
Last, Glenn Greenwald, of Unclaimed Territory, on Oliver Willis and Kevin Drum crying racist.
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Lee Greenwald did an excellent job of describing why Willis, and those like him, used one disingenuous sentence as a ploy to end discussion rather than encourage it and to paint a majority with a broad brush. I thought Greenwald was fair and concise.
The comment section gave further proof of why some refuse to admit that they may have to adjust their opinions if they actually listen.
Yet, they'll make excuses when unfettered immigration threatens to undermine the social fabric in other countries.
For example; if an American moves to, say, France and refuses to learn the language, won't adapt to social norms and expects special treatment economically, they would quickly criticize that American. As well should be. All in the same breath they have a different opinion on the recent turmoil in France involving a large number of immigrants and their children who have not adapted or assimilated. They say
France hasn't help them to assimilate. Here, they demand a different standard. We shouldn't force them to assimilate and should just let them stream across the border and off the planes and boats. It usually boils down to whether Americans are involved on either side of the issue as to what standard is applied.
Sometimes I think we should just hand half the country over to them, let them screw everything up (which they'll inevitably do) and then invade them, straighten it out and ensure their marginalization permanently.
Posted by: Oyster at December 05, 2005 11:20 AM (fl6E1)
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Agent Jones, in a "Frenchman Moment" says, Vive Laissez-faire!"
Posted by: Agent Smith at December 06, 2005 05:56 AM (VX7Tm)
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CAPTION!!! CAPTION NOW!!!
Show me what you got! Here's Saddam getting
footloose and jiggy at his trial:

And let me just say, if you're on trial for your life, wear a dadgum tie. This is not Leno. Make it look like you're trying even if you're counting on the rocket attacks and assassinations of your lawyers to save you.
First caption: Saddam: "The Americans are even now dropping more chemical weapons from their stealth bombers!"
Barzan Ibrahim al-Tikriti: "Ain't nothin stealth about where that bomber came from! Whooooee--lay offa them Doritos, cuz!"
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Agent Smith says that Former President of the Republic of Iraq, Saddam Husayn al-Tikriti is practicing for his new role as a floor trader at the Chicago Mercantile Exchange.
Agent Brown heard Husayn yell, "Buy 100,000 Pork Bellies at 27 1/3!!"
Agent Jones says the kaffiyeh-wearing defendant behind him yelled, "I'm selling, you nimwit!!!"
Posted by: Agent Smith at December 05, 2005 06:46 AM (qLtuI)
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"The ceiling needs paint."
"And the floor is dirty."
Posted by: Jane at December 05, 2005 07:08 AM (6krEN)
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"This is not the shade of Just For Men I requested!"
"Yes, what are you trying to do? Make the Great Saddam look like Wilmer Valderama?"
As for not wearing a tie, apparently he's not allowed to for security reasons.
Posted by: Graeme at December 05, 2005 07:26 AM (vwDwF)
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Did you think I'd crumble
Did you think I'd lay down and die?
Oh no, not I
I will survive
Oh as long as I know how to love
I know I'll stay alive
I've got all my life to live
I've got all my love to give
I will survive
I will survive
Hey hey
(Oh, thank you, thank, thank you. I shall put this to good abuse.)
Posted by: V the K at December 05, 2005 07:53 AM (q/kmn)
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Saddam:
"You call this a trial? in my day I'd have had me sodomized, burnt, beaten and put through a plastic shredder by now?"
al-Tikriti:
"Hey, Hey, Hey, This man don't represent me, yo' honor"
Posted by: dave at December 05, 2005 08:00 AM (CcXvt)
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Saddam:
"I demand an investigation into my disenfranchisement! Does this finger look purple to you? No? I didn't THINK so!"
Barzan:
"It's not fair! I don't even HAVE a finger!"
Posted by: Oyster at December 05, 2005 08:03 AM (fl6E1)
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"I object you infidels!!! I did not have sexual relations with Cindy Sheeham!"
Posted by: thirdee at December 05, 2005 08:24 AM (kBsuN)
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Barazan Ibrahim: "What you gonÂ’ do with all that junk? All that junk inside that trunk?"
Saddam: "IÂ’ma get, get, get, get you drunk, Get you love drunk off my hump."
Posted by: IreneFingIrene at December 05, 2005 08:25 AM (p7NnG)
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Reverend Hussein: "Thou shalt KILL THE INFIDELS!" KILL THE INFIDELS IN THE NAME OF ALLAH!"
Ibrahim: "Amen Reverend Hussein! You helpin' us now!"
Posted by: thirdee at December 05, 2005 08:39 AM (kBsuN)
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"I call for 'Breasts not bombs' you infidels", demands Saddam. Barzan replies, "No, No, No, your honor, we are not to be tortured!
Posted by: jihadibane at December 05, 2005 08:45 AM (rUyw4)
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Where is Matlock? I demand Matlock.
Posted by: Howie at December 05, 2005 08:45 AM (D3+20)
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Haha, dave's is awesome!
Posted by: Venom at December 05, 2005 09:08 AM (dbxVM)
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Jiggy ladies' man Saddam strikes a disco-pose a la Saturday Night Fever.
Posted by: Feisty at December 05, 2005 09:35 AM (r2ndd)
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"I'm not going to pay a lot for this muffler!"
Posted by: ericj at December 05, 2005 09:50 AM (hrQvk)
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1) And I... I will always love you.... - Saddam and his backup singers prepare for their touring edition of the newly formed band: Genocidal Meshugenas
2) But you can't hold my Ba'athists responsible for the behavior of a few, sick twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame the whole international system? And if the whole fraternity system is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our educational institutions in general? I put it to you, judge - isn't this an indictment of our entire internationalist system? Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth me. Gentlemen!
[Leads the Ba'athists out of the hearing, all humming I will always love you]
Posted by: lawhawk at December 05, 2005 10:26 AM (eppTH)
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Real World Baghdad - Bored senseless during their long hours of incarceration, Saddam and his brother re-enact the infamous peanut butter scene.
Posted by: IreneFingIrene at December 05, 2005 10:28 AM (p7NnG)
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"I'm Saddam Hussein and I am
reporting for duty!"
Posted by: V the K at December 05, 2005 10:39 AM (wEYaf)
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Saddam: And if elected, I will -
al-Tikriti: Shut up! You want them to take us seriously, don't you?
Posted by: Venom at December 05, 2005 10:42 AM (dbxVM)
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You put your right hand in.
You take your right hand out.
You throw them in head first and the shredder ....
Hey! That doesn't even rhyme!
Posted by: Jeff Medcalf at December 05, 2005 11:00 AM (eer2X)
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This is TOO much fun, adversely affects my prodcuctivity...
#1 - Saddam: "I did not have sex with that camel!"
Crony: "Yes, very much, he did not have sex with that camel!"
#2 - Saddam: "I'm not going to pay a lot for this muffler!"
#3 - Saddam: "Who let the dogs out?!"
#4 - Saddam: "Tastes Great!"
Crony: "Less Filling!"
Posted by: Dr. Zubov at December 05, 2005 11:12 AM (Whkiq)
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This is TOO much fun, adversely affects my productivity...
#1 - Saddam: "I did not have sex with that camel!"
Crony: "Yes, very much, he did not have sex with that camel!"
#2 - Saddam: "I'm not going to pay a lot for this muffler!"
#3 - Saddam: "Who let the dogs out?!"
#4 - Saddam: "Tastes Great!"
Crony: "Less Filling!"
Posted by: Dr. Zubov at December 05, 2005 11:12 AM (Whkiq)
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I want a #4 with fried rice! If I get white rice again I will so declare a jihad on your ass.
Posted by: The Man at December 05, 2005 11:14 AM (EDlAL)
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Hussein: "That trick with the cashews... it really does work!"
Man in back : "Ohhhh!!! Grossss!"
Posted by: IreneFingIrene at December 05, 2005 11:20 AM (p7NnG)
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"I demand a recount! Al Gore won! John Kerry won! BUSH LIED PEOPLE DIED!!! NO WAR FOR OIL!!! WHAT WMD's?!?!?! FREE MUMIA!!!
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at December 05, 2005 11:23 AM (0yYS2)
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"Did you feel like Jesus?
Did you realize,
You are still an outlaw
in their eyes?
Get it on,
Get it on,
Kid Charlemagne,
Get it on, Kid Charlemagne"
Posted by: MCPO Airdale at December 05, 2005 11:25 AM (WOQ34)
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Free Tookie! also.
IM, you're on a roll. Lol!
Posted by: jesusland joe at December 05, 2005 11:25 AM (rUyw4)
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"Look how tall my brother is!"
"Look how tall I am!"
Posted by: John at December 05, 2005 01:00 PM (wg4FW)
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See-Dubya,
I am sooo sorry about that. I guess this means I need a news reader, eh?
My bad.
Cheers,
Dave at Garfield Ridge
Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge at December 05, 2005 01:15 PM (y1hCN)
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You spin me right round baby...
Posted by: Jester at December 05, 2005 01:17 PM (wBDaS)
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Here's mine. http://ipsofactocomic.blogspot.com/2005/12/and-saddam-for-all.html
Posted by: Mike at December 05, 2005 01:37 PM (1WPwQ)
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Dave--How could you see this photo and not have a caption contest?
Put 'em up over at Dave's too.
Posted by: See-Dubya at December 05, 2005 01:45 PM (1EyVw)
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"I ORDERED THE CHICKEN WITH MANGO SAUCE!
And I distinctly said I hated "curry" not "Kurds"! My order that day was mis-interpreted!"
Posted by: hondo at December 05, 2005 02:17 PM (3aakz)
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Saddam: ...I therefore DEMAND that I be allowed to eat the last Mallomar at lunchtime! It is my RIGHT as Dictator for life and Maximum Leader of the Iraqi Peoples!
Barzan: Yeah! What HE said!
Posted by: mojo at December 05, 2005 04:13 PM (/lPia)
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"If I... were the King... of the forresssssssttt..."
Posted by: odrady at December 05, 2005 04:41 PM (FPlB1)
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Wonder why he hasn't mentioned his retarded sons? Probably hated them as much as we did.
Posted by: greyrooster at December 05, 2005 05:57 PM (9Dlss)
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I curse your moustache and fart on your beard and if I had shoes I would throw them at you, you son of a sharmouta
Posted by: Malikrik at December 06, 2005 12:17 AM (Jnkv/)
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"I am Napoleon!!"
"No, Fuck you, I'm Napoleon!!"
Posted by: Agent Smith at December 06, 2005 05:58 AM (VX7Tm)
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Speaker: "Iran has become a real threat to the world. We are looking for help. If anyone here has any prior experience in blowing up Iran, please raise your hand."
Posted by: Steve Sharon at December 06, 2005 11:46 AM (utZzN)
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Atheists Protest Memorial Crosses
(Salt Lake City) American Atheists Inc. has filed suit in U.S. District Court to remove highway crosses placed to memorialize Utah Highway Patrol troopers who have died in the line of duty. The crosses stand about 12 feet high and display the trooper's name and the Utah Highway Patrol emblem (
example). They are placed near the location where the troopers were slain.
Specifically targeted by the lawsuit are Col. Scott Duncan, superintendent of the UHP; John Njord, executive director of the Utah Department of Transportation; D'Arcy Dixon Pignanelli, executive director of the Department of Administrative Services; and F. Keith Stepan, state facilities director.
The plaintiffs are Stephen Clark, Michael Rivers, Richard Andrews and American Atheists Inc.
From the Salt Lake Tribune:
Rivers said the purpose of the suit is to eliminate religious symbols used by government agencies and placed on government land. American Atheists claim to have a membership of 30 million people. They are not opposed to memorials, just the crosses.
"We feel the department of transportation, by allowing the Utah Highway Patrol Association to pick a religious symbol is unfair. We think it should be totally secular with no religious theme," Rivers said. "[The cross] is a Christian religious symbol. People will look at those and automatically assume that religion is a part of it."
Supporters of the memorials stated that the families of the fallen would be devastated and the legacies of the slain troopers would be tarnished if the crosses were removed. According to Sgt. Todd Royce, past president of the Utah Highway Patrol Association, the crosses are
no different from those at other government memorial sites, such as Arlington National Cemetery.
American Atheists Inc. is asking for $1 in damages and the removal of all crosses on government property. I believe a blind person can see what the atheists are aiming for. Logically, it's the removal of all crosses at veterans' cemeteries throughout the nation. American Atheists also wants the court to rule that it's unconstitutional to display the highway patrol insignia on a cross.
Companion post at Interested-Participant.
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What is it with these assholes? They're not real atheists, they're damned communists.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at December 05, 2005 05:17 AM (0yYS2)
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Agent Smith says that there are enough crosses to bear without having Big Brother Sam to do it too.
Posted by: Agent Smith at December 05, 2005 05:33 AM (qLtuI)
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I could accept that 30 million Americans are a combination of atheist, non-religious and agnostic. But think about it. Every single one of them would have to be a member of American Atheists Inc. That's a bit hard to swallow. I guess if you're not afraid of going to hell then lying is a bit easier, eh?
Posted by: Oyster at December 05, 2005 05:48 AM (YudAC)
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Agents Smith, Brown and Jones were WRONG and now correct the geographical error. The "Sunni Triangle" has one point in Baghdad, one point in Tikrit, and one point in Ramadi.
Agent Brown, smarting from Agent Smith's recent smack on the head, now reports that the Sunni Triangle is populated mostly with Sunnis. The region includes beautiful Lake Tharthar, Fallujeah, Jabbaneah, Balad and Samarra. Teeming with insurgents and Improbulus Maximus' fiery mix of goatboys and knifeboys, the area tends to revolt on a minute-by-minute basis.
Agent Jones, also smarting, reports that the "Triangle of Death" is the small and nasty zone south of Baghdad, with a mixed Denton, Texas-style of Sunni/Shia population with light industry, agriculture and plenty of trouble.
Posted by: Agent Smith at December 05, 2005 06:12 AM (qLtuI)
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While I don't agree with the use of permanent roadside memorials, this lawsuit, like all the others is an utter waste of time. These people are pissed because the cross was chosen for the memorial. Could it be that a cross was chosen because the slain officers were Christian? Afterall, one usually doesn't find a cross at a Jewish memorial, or a star of David at a Christian memorial. The atheists fail to understand that for those of us who believe in a higher authority, religion is a big part of life and subsequently death. Therefore any rememberance of a deceased person will usually involve religious symbology. It has nothing to do with the government advocating the religion. There are far bigger and more important things in this world to be offended about.
Posted by: Graeme at December 05, 2005 06:24 AM (vwDwF)
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The crosses are there to symbolise the religion of the dead person, not to show the religion of the state or it's inhabitants.
i could understand the family of say a Jewish patrolman bringing a lawsuit if they were told they had to have a cross, but it's really nothing to do with the AA.
Posted by: Mrs Aginoth at December 05, 2005 07:15 AM (cZrVc)
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at December 05, 2005 07:28 AM (8e/V4)
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I'm telling you dudes, we need a Religious Heritage Amendment to the Constitution.
Just one amendment that says "The display of religious symbols by the United States or any state shall be permitted and shall not constitute an establishment of religion under the First Amendment."
Shut up Michael Newdow and the ACLU once and for all.
Posted by: V the K at December 05, 2005 07:58 AM (wEYaf)
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Im am getting tired of these atheists forcing themselves on us throught their stupid lawsuits what gives them the right to force their nonbeliefs on others? why dont they just quit being such a bunch of jerks and learn to tolerate what us conservative christians beleive
Posted by: sandpiper at December 05, 2005 09:27 AM (b1Fi6)
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On the face of it this sounds all silly and stupid. I'm not even going to bother. There are a few libs and leftists floating around this board - so - come forward and explain, rationalize and defend this.
I don't get it! What's the beef! What's the argument! These are your buddies - other than "possibly" the 12' high I can't possibly see what problem is.
Posted by: hondo at December 05, 2005 09:58 AM (3aakz)
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"There are a few libs and leftists floating around this board"
yeah, I guess that might be me, but I can't help here. as an athiest & mostly liberal I wouldn't want a 12' cross as a memerial personally, but I don't have a problem with others doing it
Still I don't belong to any athiests groups either - whats the point? Atheism is not a religion, we don't have very much in common most of the time.
Posted by: Mrs Aginoth at December 05, 2005 10:11 AM (cZrVc)
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Nobody has
any right to force their beliefs on others, and we don't need a new amendment to enumerate that, because;
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, (not establishing a religion, as many with an agenda would have you believe), or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. Regarding the memorial crosses, as long as it's not done with tax money, then why should I care? I shouldn't, and I don't, and so neither should anyone else, but these Marxist liberals are trying to purge religion from the public square, (again, as long as no taxpayer money is involved, I don't really care who puts up a nativity scene on the courthouse lawn), and they're trying to purge it from the minds and lives of employees of government, and then from the lives of daily Americans.
As everyone here probably knows, I'm an atheist, (orthodox, not evangelical), but I'm an American first, a loyal citizen whose sole allegience is with my nation, and its laws. This means to me that I am obliged to accept, no,
demand Liberty for others if I want Liberty for myself. See, I believe in the republican, rather than the democratic form of government, because only in a constitutional republic can the rights of minorities and the individual, (who is the smallest minority), be protected from the mob, whereas in a true democracy, only the mob enjoys protection through numerical superiority, and minorities and individuals get crushed. I'm also a libertarian because I believe that the role and scope of government must be limited so as not to intrude upon, or impede the daily lives of the people without actual need, and then only within Constitutional boundaries. The problem in America today is that everyone seems willing to disregard the Constitutional rights of others as long as they get their own agenda put into law, and so we have religious fanatics trying to interject their religious beliefs into the scientific education of children, among other efforts, and secular fanatics trying to intrude into all other aspects of education, politics, and life. The only thing that anyone isn't doing is following Constitutional principles, but rather both left and right are trying to destroy the Constitution piecemeal so that they can establish cultural and political dominance.
What is happening now is no different in principle than Stalin's purges or the Nazi death camps, or any other event in human history, wherein one group tries to destroy another group because they hold different beliefs; we're just not stacking up the bodies. Yet.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at December 05, 2005 11:20 AM (0yYS2)
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It is only tolerance if the queer, femist, latte sipping leftwing elitist diaper doper babies agree with it! The ACLU is nothing more than the Klan with law degrees. They scream 1st amendment on everything except anything Christian or any other religion(except Muslim).
Posted by: Andy Driggers at December 05, 2005 11:34 AM (tMU4W)
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Know why that is Andy? It's because American evangelical Christianity is
completely incompatible with Marxism, whereas islam is a perfect match, once allowances are made. The ACLU's original mission was to subvert the political, economic, and educational systems in order to pave the way for Marxism, and nothing has changed, except that now we're starting to fight back.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at December 05, 2005 12:29 PM (0yYS2)
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did I mention Leftists are scumsucking assholes?
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at December 05, 2005 02:02 PM (BFbp8)
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Yes you did, but still, it bears repeating as loudly and often as one cares to.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at December 05, 2005 03:32 PM (0yYS2)
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Andy Driggers: We have many members with law degrees. Please do not mention my brothers in the same paragraph with the ACLU. We love this country and stick our necks out to preserve it.
Posted by: greyrooster at December 05, 2005 06:05 PM (9Dlss)
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Anomaly detected... searching... KKK, Ku Klux Klan, a fringe American organisation noted for active hostility to Jews and Blacks.
Agent Jones found the following on the ADL Archive: "Every group on the Klan's list serves as a scapegoat for individual Klansmen to explain and excuse their inability to succeed and advance in modern society."
Agent Brown says that support of Israel and active Klan membership are mutually incompatible, with the exception of one strange man who jumps from closet to white robes and back again.
Agent Smith sings, Mr. Anderson, you disappoint me.
Posted by: Agent Smith at December 06, 2005 06:10 AM (VX7Tm)
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Christians only want religion(creationism) to be considered as an alternative "theory", which is what Darwinism is...to have equal status in the classroom. We do not force our beliefs on others.They have the right, and ability, to not listen. And, we want our rights to express our beliefs as we see fit. Atheists, agnostics, etc are not stopped from expressing themselves, yet they do not think we have the same privilige.
Posted by: Super Grammy at December 06, 2005 07:09 AM (o0pyU)
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Protestants, Catholics and many religions and athetists (Soviet Union) all presecuted the Jewish people. This KKK member says it was a mistake and wrong. Therefore I try to correct that wrong and argue the point with the glorious members of the Klan. I have converted many brothers. The Jewish people should have been our allies. We made a grave mistake letting a few (for who knows why?) influence the Klan.
Protestants, Catholics and the KKK know longer persecute Jewish people.
While we admit our mistakes of the past. The Jews have never cried and asked for money like other groups claiming past persecution. I have a plan to send some of our young bucks to Israel for training. Our muscle. Their experience. Their money. An unbeatable combination. Look out Farrakhan. You could be in deep shit.
Posted by: greyrooster at December 06, 2005 05:56 PM (JHIKU)
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One point greyrooster: Communism isn't atheistic, it's a religion unto itself.
Now to Super Grammy, who said: "Christians only want religion(creationism) to be considered as an alternative "theory", which is what Darwinism is... to have equal status in the classroom."
First, teaching creationism is fine. In church, that is, but not in public schools where kids need to learn things that have actual value in real life. See, creationism is not a science, nor is any part of it an actual theory, nor is it in any way based on real science, but rather it's religious ideology, and nothing more, and thus is fine for Sunday School, but not high school. To me, the desire to have religious dogma pushed on schoolkids is just a symptom of nothing more than a desire to proselytize without being honest enough to say so.
"We do not force our beliefs on others."
Sorry, but yes, you do. Wanna know how I know? I was once an evangelical Christian too, and I know you well. Forcing your beliefs on others is exactly what you want to do by trying to get creationism taught in schools. Hey, how about we teach black magic and necromancy as alternative theories too?
"They have the right, and ability, to not listen."
In which case they would fail the class. Don't pull that on me, I'm smarter than the average bear.
"And, we want our rights to express our beliefs as we see fit."
And you can in church, in public, on the internet, etc., and just the fact that you can't have your mythology taught as science in no way impedes your right to worship freely. But then, that isn't really all you want...
"Atheists, agnostics, etc are not stopped from expressing themselves, yet they do not think we have the same privilige."
So how do we express ourselves? Oh yeah, that's right; we rely on logic, reason, and scientific facts and firm theories, rather than magic, witchcraft, and absolutist indoctrination.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at December 06, 2005 07:45 PM (0yYS2)
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The atheists are cold ,cold people and have no respect for our country or our people, they only want for themselves and nobody else.They make me sick.There is nothing wrong with the cross on our highways,its not about religion its how we chose to honor our men that died for us.So the athiests can go to hell and stay there because we dont need them or their opinions.
Posted by: lonesomedove91 at December 07, 2005 02:21 PM (VwQnU)
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lonesomedove91: Are you grouping? Most athiests and agnostics feel that the cross is just fine. As usual the media makes big things out of little things. Example: The Cindy Sheehan bitch. One of 130 million women in this country and gets the attention on MSN.
Posted by: greyrooster at December 09, 2005 08:18 AM (SHEau)
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